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===Constitution Operational Standard (2245)===
===Constitution Operational Standard (2245)===
* same as "Enterprise Production Prototype", except...
* same as "Enterprise Production Prototype", except...
* ("essentially a") Saladin SBE type impulse engines, just over half the size of the Enterprise's SBA type
<strike>* ("essentially a") Saladin SBE type impulse engines, just over half the size of the Enterprise's SBA type</strike>
* will use the three-nozzle impulse engines from the prototype (Siva II saucer), based on discussion with Adrasil


===Constellation Operational Standard (2245)===
===Constellation Operational Standard (2245)===
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===Republic Operational Standard (2245)===
===Republic Operational Standard (2245)===
* retains the Republic saucer
* retains the Republic saucer
* secondary hull overhauled to match [[:File:Republic (first).png]]
* <strike>secondary hull overhauled to match [[:File:Republic (first).png]]</strike>
* no phasers (lasers instead)
* secondary hull ''possibly'' a simplified version of the Enterprise's pre-pilot


==Production Notes==
==Production Notes==


===USS Farragut (224x)===
===USS Farragut (2247)===
* same as "Enterprise Production Prototype"
* same as "Enterprise Production Prototype"
* Note: won't receive it's own SRM entry, but might visually fit (ortho) onto the Enterprise production prototype entry.
* Note: won't receive it's own SRM entry, but might visually fit (ortho) onto the Enterprise production prototype entry.
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===Constitution Flt II (2250)===
===Constitution Flt II (2250)===
* 2nd Pilot
* 1st Pilot


===Bonhomme Richard refit/newbuilds (2250s)===
===Bonhomme Richard refit/newbuilds (2250s)===
* 2nd Pilot
* 2x aft-firing torpedo launchers above shuttle bay (select vessels)
* 2x aft-firing torpedo launchers above shuttle bay (select vessels)
* lasers replaced by phasers
* lasers replaced by phasers
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* PB-32 mod 3 nacelles
* PB-32 mod 3 nacelles
* single particle cannons removed
* single particle cannons removed
===Constitution Flt III (2260)===
* TOS Series
* Note: ''Enterprise'' doesn't get the refit until [[2265]]/[[2266]] (after "Where No Man Has Gone Before")


===Victory newbuilds (mid-2260s)===
===Victory newbuilds (mid-2260s)===
* same as Bonhomme Richard, but with ''all'' weapons
* same as Bonhomme Richard, but with ''all'' weapons
===USS Republic cadet ship (2286)===
* All weapons removed/ported over, except for 1 laser
* minor navigational deflector upgrade similar to Constitution (refit)
* took over cadet training from (destroyed) Enterprise (NCC-1701)


=Saucer Variants=
=Saucer Variants=
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* (2nd Pilot (Vance alt)): Victory tactical cruiser (mid-2260s)
* (2nd Pilot (Vance alt)): Victory tactical cruiser (mid-2260s)


== Ship dimensions==
= Ship dimensions=
This was the first of the Adrasil collaborations in which he provided the dimensions, based on the (more accurate) [[:File:Captshade Ship Scale Measurement Ruler.png|Captshade ship scale measurement ruler]].
This was the first of the Adrasil collaborations in which he provided the dimensions, based on the (more accurate) [[:File:Captshade Ship Scale Measurement Ruler.png|Captshade ship scale measurement ruler]], rather than using my pixel-based averaged system. Those of the ''Constitution'''s three flights and ''Bonhomme Richards'' correspond to the canon dimensions.


=SRM TOC=
=SRM TOC=
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* 03 ''Republic'' prototype (2238) ('''DONE''')
* 03 ''Republic'' prototype (2238) ('''DONE''')
* 04 ''Constitution'' production prototype (2241) ('''DONE''')
* 04 ''Constitution'' production prototype (2241) ('''DONE''')
* 05 ''Enterprise'' production prototype (2245)
* 05 ''Enterprise'' production prototype (2245) (Note: "Production Standard" on the BPs) ('''DONE''')
* 06 ''Constitution'' operational standard (2245) (''USS Constitution'')
* 06 ''Constitution'' operational standard (2245) (''USS Constitution'') ('''DONE''')
* 07 ''Constellation'' operational standard (2245) (''USS Constellation'')
* 07 ''Constellation'' operational standard (2245) (''USS Constellation'') ('''DONE''')
* 08 ''Republic'' operational standard (2245) (''USS Republic'')
* 08 ''Republic'' operational standard (2245) (''USS Republic'') ('''DONE''')
* 09 ''Constitution'' production standard (224x) (''USS Farragut'') (Note: no BPs necessary)
* 08x ''Constitution'' production standard (2247) (''USS Farragut'') (Note: no BPs necessary)
* 10 ''Constitution'' Flt II (2250) (''USS ________'')
* 09 ''Constitution'' Flt II (2250) (''USS Excalibur'') ('''DONE''')
* 11 ''Bonhomme Richard'' (2250) (Note: all original ''Constitutions'', including ''Constellation'' but not ''Republic'' nor ''Potemkin'', achieve this standard eventually)
* 10 ''Bonhomme Richard'' (2250) (Note: all original ''Constitutions'', including ''Constellation'' but not ''Republic'' nor ''Potemkin'', achieve this standard eventually)
* 12 ''Constitution'' Flt III (2264) (''USS ________'')
** 11 Type 2: ''USS Lexington'' (2256) ('''DONE''')
* 13 ''Victory'' (2265)
** 12 Type 3: ''USS Intrepid'' (2256) ('''DONE''')
* 13 ''Constitution'' Flt III (2264) (''USS Enterprise'') ('''art under correction''')
* 14 ''Victory'' (2265)
* 15 ''Republic'' cadet ship (2286)
 
=Destroyed Constitutions=
* USS Valiant (NCC-1709): 2247 (Timo)
* USS Constellation (NCC-1017): 2267 ("The Doomsday Machine")
* USS Excalibur (NCC-1705): 2268 ("The Ultimate Computer")
* USS Intrepid (NCC-1708): 2268 ("The Immunity Syndrome")
 
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* USS Defiant (NCC-1764): 2268 (Not an original, but a member of the ''Victory'' subclass)
* USS Rivoli (NCC-1765): year unknown but 2268 or later (Not an original, but a member of the ''Victory'' subclass)
 
----
 
* USS Kongo (NCC-1710): crippled but not destroyed, 2277
 
=Old Art=
Back in the dark ages Before Adrasil, these were the internally-inconsistent images used to represent the variations of the ''Constitution'' class, as described by Timo.
<gallery>
File:Constellation (first).png|''Constellation'', original prototype with PB-30 nacelles (see Project Starship notes)
File:Republic (first).png|''Republic'', original prototype with ''Horizon'' saucer and (what should be) PB-30s (see notes)
File:Constellation (PB-31).png|''Constellation'' and (new-build) ''Constitution'', with PB-31 nacelles (see notes)
File:Constitution (first).png|''Constellation'' and (repaired) ''Constitution'', with the near-production standard hull and PB-31 nacelles (see notes)
File:Republic (operational).png|''Republic'', in it's operational configuration with (what should be) PB-31 nacelles (see notes)
 
File:Constitution (typical) (stbd).png|''Constitution'' class, production
File:Constitution (typical) (bow).png
File:Constitution (typical) (dorsal).png
 
File:1700 (operational) (stbd).png|''USS Constitution'' (NCC-1700), operational refit
File:1700 (operational) (bow).png
File:1700 (operational) (dorsal).png
File:1700 (operational) (stern).png
File:1700 (operational) (ventral).png
 
File:Bonhomme Richard (stbd).png|''Bonhomme Richard'' subclass
File:Bonhomme Richard (bow).png
File:Bonhomme Richard (dorsal).png
File:Bonhomme Richard (stern).png
File:Bonhomme Richard (ventral).png
 
File:Victory (stbd).png|''Victory'' tactical subclass
File:Victory (bow).png
File:Victory (dorsal).png
File:Victory (stern).png
File:Victory (ventral).png
 
File:Constitution deep space cruiser (starboard).png
File:Constitution deep space cruiser (bow).png
File:Constitution deep space cruiser (dorsal).png
File:Constitution (2245)(side).png|Constitution (2245)
File:Constitution (2245)(bow).png
File:Constitution (2245)(dorsal).png
File:Constitution (2255)(side).png|Constitution (2255)
File:Constitution (2255)(bow).png
File:Constitution (2255)(dorsal).png
File:Constitution (2265) (side).png|Constitution (2265)
File:Constitution (2265) (bow).png
File:Constitution (2265) (dorsal).png
 
File:Constitution class bonhomme richard sub type by admiral horton ddnpg98.png|by admiral horton
</gallery>

Latest revision as of 14:11, 6 March 2020

Ship Variants

Prototype Notes

Constellation Fusion Testbed (2226)

  • Blank 1 image
  • no livery, no registry, no name

Constellation Dilithium Testbed (2238)

  • Horizon hull (i.e., Blank 1)
  • upward pylons
  • streamlined saucer on the dorsal side, just below the bridge, like an early version of the Pilot saucer probably pre-Siva
  • PB-31 nacelle
  • "standard" neck
  • livery, NX registry, non-USS name

Republic Pre-production Prototype (2238)

  • Republic saucer & neck
    • both "boxes" still here, but bottom one ribbed
    • small, cramped hangar in the bottom "box" (not on stern)
  • use the secondary hull as seen on File:Constellation (PB-31).png
    • needs to be more narrow than either the Horizon or the pilot Enterprise secondary hulls
  • no weapons
  • livery, NX registry, non-USS name

Constitution Production Prototype (2241)

  • same as "Republic Pre-production Prototype"
  • with weapons
  • livery, NX registry, non-USS name
  • saucer from the Constellation Dilithium Testbed Siva (I) (2240) saucer as a base, with 'updates'.

Enterprise Production Prototype (2245)

  • 1st Pilot pre-1st Pilot
  • secondary hull should be wider than above Republic
  • full livery, registration, USS name
  • on ventral of secondary hull:
    • "main tractor beam assembly"
    • antimatter access/jettison doors
  • PB-31A
  • SRM entry should be named "Constitution Heavy Cruiser (Production Standard)"

Constitution Operational Standard (2245)

  • same as "Enterprise Production Prototype", except...

* ("essentially a") Saladin SBE type impulse engines, just over half the size of the Enterprise's SBA type

  • will use the three-nozzle impulse engines from the prototype (Siva II saucer), based on discussion with Adrasil

Constellation Operational Standard (2245)

  • same as "Enterprise Production Prototype"

Republic Operational Standard (2245)

  • retains the Republic saucer
  • secondary hull overhauled to match File:Republic (first).png
  • secondary hull possibly a simplified version of the Enterprise's pre-pilot

Production Notes

USS Farragut (2247)

  • same as "Enterprise Production Prototype"
  • Note: won't receive it's own SRM entry, but might visually fit (ortho) onto the Enterprise production prototype entry.
  • Note: should get it's own DA release

Constitution Flt II (2250)

  • 1st Pilot

Bonhomme Richard refit/newbuilds (2250s)

  • 2nd Pilot
  • 2x aft-firing torpedo launchers above shuttle bay (select vessels)
  • lasers replaced by phasers
  • twin phasers replace the auxiliary cargo hold (fantail) (select vessels)
  • 2x (single) phasers on the ventral secondary hull (not fantail) (different select vessels)
  • PB-32 mod 3 nacelles
  • single particle cannons removed

Constitution Flt III (2260)

  • TOS Series
  • Note: Enterprise doesn't get the refit until 2265/2266 (after "Where No Man Has Gone Before")

Victory newbuilds (mid-2260s)

  • same as Bonhomme Richard, but with all weapons

USS Republic cadet ship (2286)

  • All weapons removed/ported over, except for 1 laser
  • minor navigational deflector upgrade similar to Constitution (refit)
  • took over cadet training from (destroyed) Enterprise (NCC-1701)

Saucer Variants

Stored in the "Saucers" file within "Constitution project"

  • "Republic" saucer (Saucer 1 Republic (revised)": Constellation Fusion Testbed (2226), Republic Pre-production Prototype (2238)
  • pre-Siva (Saucer 2 Constellation): Constellation Dilithium Testbed (2238)
  • Siva saucer (Saucer 3): Constitution Production Prototype (2242)
  • pre-1st Pilot (Saucer 4): Enterprise Production Prototype (2245)
  • EPP impulse variant (Saucer 5): Constitution Production Standard (2245)
  • 1st Pilot (Saucer 6 First Pilot): Bonhomme Richard (mid-2250s)
  • 2nd Pilot (Saucer 7 Second Pilot): some post-Pike upgrade
  • Series (Saucer 8 Kirk): post-2nd Pilot upgrade
  • (2nd Pilot (Vance alt)): Victory tactical cruiser (mid-2260s)

Ship dimensions

This was the first of the Adrasil collaborations in which he provided the dimensions, based on the (more accurate) Captshade ship scale measurement ruler, rather than using my pixel-based averaged system. Those of the Constitution's three flights and Bonhomme Richards correspond to the canon dimensions.

SRM TOC

  • 01 Constellation fusion testbed (2226) (DONE)
  • 02 Constellation dilithium testbed (2238) (DONE)
  • 03 Republic prototype (2238) (DONE)
  • 04 Constitution production prototype (2241) (DONE)
  • 05 Enterprise production prototype (2245) (Note: "Production Standard" on the BPs) (DONE)
  • 06 Constitution operational standard (2245) (USS Constitution) (DONE)
  • 07 Constellation operational standard (2245) (USS Constellation) (DONE)
  • 08 Republic operational standard (2245) (USS Republic) (DONE)
  • 08x Constitution production standard (2247) (USS Farragut) (Note: no BPs necessary)
  • 09 Constitution Flt II (2250) (USS Excalibur) (DONE)
  • 10 Bonhomme Richard (2250) (Note: all original Constitutions, including Constellation but not Republic nor Potemkin, achieve this standard eventually)
    • 11 Type 2: USS Lexington (2256) (DONE)
    • 12 Type 3: USS Intrepid (2256) (DONE)
  • 13 Constitution Flt III (2264) (USS Enterprise) (art under correction)
  • 14 Victory (2265)
  • 15 Republic cadet ship (2286)

Destroyed Constitutions

  • USS Valiant (NCC-1709): 2247 (Timo)
  • USS Constellation (NCC-1017): 2267 ("The Doomsday Machine")
  • USS Excalibur (NCC-1705): 2268 ("The Ultimate Computer")
  • USS Intrepid (NCC-1708): 2268 ("The Immunity Syndrome")

  • USS Defiant (NCC-1764): 2268 (Not an original, but a member of the Victory subclass)
  • USS Rivoli (NCC-1765): year unknown but 2268 or later (Not an original, but a member of the Victory subclass)

  • USS Kongo (NCC-1710): crippled but not destroyed, 2277

Old Art

Back in the dark ages Before Adrasil, these were the internally-inconsistent images used to represent the variations of the Constitution class, as described by Timo.